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June 11, 2011

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TJ

Ugh.

For me, the two hardest things about being a teacher are 1) trying to work with kids who are willfully mean and 2) finding ways to cope with and accept crappy parenting decisions. (Some issues, like paperwork and testing, I don't have to worry about because I teach pre-K in a private school.)

Margaret

Already with the bullying and name calling? In the name of religion and meanness. *sigh* I hate hearing about how mean little kids can be.

the bee

I hope every teacher that gets hold of the mean girl keeps up the pressure. We have 2 bullies in my office and it is a daily chore not to slap their faces right off. These are horrible traits to have and she needs to be stopped before she ends up going to hell. Sorry, I could not resist. Es la verdad.

Swistle

This post is perfection. Send-to-teacher-magazine-for-publication perfection.

blackbird

I admire your honesty.

Miz S

Uh-oh. Maybe I was too honest.

Margaret

I admire and am Grateful that you are such a strong advocate for those who need someone at their side.

The nasty girl should know that we're all going to Heaven, because God forgives all our crappy behavior and words.

You are a Blessing to all your students.

I agree that this story should be published. It will show other teachers in similar circumstances that it's OK to Firmly stand up for the needy children.

Cathy S.

I have visions of a millstone around some big fat loud well dressed preacher's neck. and maybe a momma's too. Matthew 18:6

Thanks for standing up for what is right.

MsCellania

You should have whispered very quietly in that little QB Shit's ear "No, I know for a fact YOU are going to actually burn in hell. God told me." and then stand up and say loudly to the rest of the class "Oh dear, I just told her she has to go to the principal and look how upset she is!" (You didn't want to keep teaching next year, did ya?! ;)

I always knee-jerk react to Mean Kid stories. Yesenia is very much like Ryan. But luckily, he could give a rip about the mean kids. Aspergers has its benefits...

Liza Lee Miller

This too shall end. Es la verdad.

FC

Ahh, the things that are said and done in the name of religion.

I'm never shocked by the mean spirited us vs. them attitude exhibited by the holier than thou clan.

As for the bully, ... La manzana no cae lejos del árbol.

Now about this writing... damn girl! Sweet.

maddy

I'd have to have a glass of wine or a cocktail that evening to recover from the whole situation.

Sophie

Oh dear. This is possibly the worst example of mean girl behavior I've ever heard. Yesenia will remember it, but she will also remember how you stood up for her, and assured her that she is not going to hell. Bullying is bad enough, but religious bullying is particularly reprehensible, and SO NOT consistent with the nature of God. Kudos, too, for your concern for Rochelle, distasteful she may be, but still a little girl.

I also agree, that this story needs to be published. Many great lessons here.

robin andrea

It's been a long time since I was in the first grade, but I swear I don't remember anyone talking about who was going to hell or not. Yikes, what has happened in the intervening 54 years? Kids got bullied back then, but mostly for being lousy at kick ball or something. Hell? That wasn't even on our radar. Why is it on the lips of first graders these days?

I absolutely love how you handled this, and I wish that you never have to again.

Cazza

And this is why you were called to teacherdom.

Your awesomeness in dealing with the shitty kids that have been created from evil parenting never ceases to overwhelm me.

Initial reaction is how dare the little cow speak like that to a schoolmate. And then you realise how old she is. And THEN you see the parent's reaction.

Sheesh.

I don't know if you have teacher of the year but I would vote for you every time.

Miz S

TJ: 1) yup. 2) double-yup. Hey, is your mom's name Hope? I think she used to read my blog and tell me about how you were going to be a teacher.

Margaret - I know, right? But it's my job to try and teach them not to be. Actually, it's their parents' job, but you know how that goes.

Bee - your office bully is particularly bad. But try not to slap.

Swistle - thanks! I might have to take out the swear-y words.

blackbird - some kids are hard to like. Sad, I know. But I would still take a bullet for her.

Other Margaret - every teacher I know stands up for the underdog kids.

Cathy S. -- dag, you know your Bible. I'm Catholic, therefore I can't quote shit from the bible.

MsCellania -- curb those instincts, woman!

Liza - 4 more days!!!

FC - thanks, dude.

Maddy - I believe I DID have a drink that evening.

Sophie - I'm afraid this will just be one in a string of bad memories for poor Yesenia. School is hard for her.

Robin - I know. My friends and I never talked about heaven and hell, either. Even though we all went to church every week. These families are mostly Latino immigrants and a lot of them are SUPER religious. I hear all kinds of interesting philosophical discussions among the children.

Cazza - Her parents aren't evil. Her mother seems overwhelmed a lot, and she doesn't do much to rein in her high-spirited daughters (the older sister is even more of a handful), but she's doing her best I'm sure.

You're sweet to think of me as Teacher of the Year, but I'm quite average, I assure you.

Vicki

Gawd. Why am I ALWAYS late to every party? And now it's probably too late to get a comment back. Anyway, following up on what FC said, Hay una manzana podrida en cada barril. About one child out of every hundred I saw in my therapy practice I just couldn't like. And I felt guilty about that even though those few often ended up continuing on, growing from little shits to big shits. The thing is, you keep trying. Una manzana para la maestra!

Also, what Cathy said, because she practices a righteous and kind religion.

Tessie

I LOVE THIS POST.

Miz S

Vicki - La maestra accepts all apples gratefully. Although, I have a hankering for blueberries lately.

Tessie - I'm flattered that you liked it :)

Cathy S.

Oh, don't give me too much credit! I know bits and pieces of verses, but never where to find them. I go to www.biblegateway.com and put in a keyword like millstone and voila, there's the verse! Even a Catholic can do it. ;0)

Stokesia

I would have said "Of course she isn't! Only mean people go down there!"

kt

Here for the first time. I enjoyed your anecdote, a teacher who gives a rip about classroom dynamics and kids' feelings and acts on it! Thought I'd share an anecdote. My daughter is often bullied and/or socially excuded at recess and here is how she dealt with it this year in 3rd grade: The teacher, oblivious to all, decided that if the home work wasn't done (this is a constant issue with my daughter), my daughter would have to stay in for recess to get the homework done. They even signed a contract! This made the homework issue even worse, since not doing the homework meant that she could stay in from recess. In other words, the punishment was actually a reward!

Phaedra

Love it Mary! I asked my Kinders once what happens when you tell a lie and I had a tiny, sassy one spout off, "yous go to hells, Ms. Bender. Skrate to hells!!!" Luckily, she never became a mean girls but thoroughly indoctrinated with the high and holy.

Karenth

To kt:
Your comment made me sad. That worked for me, too, as a kid, but the cost to my social development was high. Hope next year's teacher is more fully involved in ALL aspects of education of our youngsters. They deserve the best we can give them!

Sascha

Whoa. It makes me sad because as a parent I see such a small portion of what really happens. My son is blind and an easy target. There are some really mean little sh!theads at our school. One is actually named Turbo. WTF?!? I have to say that our teachers are fabulous and I'm impressed that they don't really hide their disdain for the sh!theads.

Ms. Key

I found this post through a link on Swistle's blog. I too teach first grade this year, and I have a Rochelle in my class -- she is SO MEAN. One day, I actually told her, "You are being a MEAN. GIRL." because of the way she made another little girl cry on the carpet, while whispering mean things in her ear while I was trying to teach a math lesson. It was terrible! Her mother doesn't do much to stop it either.

I just totally understand this post, totally.

Mama Bub

Once upon a time, when I used to teach middle school, I sat in a conference with what we liked to call a "willful non-learner." Not that he was incapable of learning, just that at age 12 he had decided he was checking out. He was lazy, and didn't do his work and just couldn't be bothered to care. After hearing from all of his teachers, his mother turned to him and raised an eyebrow. "Mom! It's not my fault. They don't like me." Here eyes opened wide and she snapped back, "You are rude in class, you don't do as you're told, you have zero respect for your teachers, OF COURSE THEY DON'T LIKE YOU.

I mean, it's the truth. Some kids are hard to like. Teachers aren't immune to bad behavior. But, the reality is that you treated her as you would have treated any student who acted that way, which says more about you than "liking" her could ever do.

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